TIDBALL, Edward McGuire

Other Events and Attributes:

• Education: Studied Law
• Occupation: Lawyer
• Residence: Water Street, Winchester, VA

Notes:

Notes from Jane Perry:

ALEXANDER SCOTT TIDBALL (1796-1848) was the son of Joseph Tidball and Jane Scott. Joseph Tidball immigrated to this country from Wales and settled in Philadelphia, Pa. Later, with his wife, he moved to
Winchester in Frederick Co., Virginia, and there he prospered greatly. At one time he owned most of the land upon which the town of Winchester now stands. No less than fifteen full pages of the Index of Deeds in the Clerk's Office in Winchester are filled with the real estate transactions of this family and they cover
only those which took place prior to 1838.

He and his brother, Thomas Allen Tidball, who served as Clerk and Deputy Clerk of the Court for Frederick County for 52 years, purchased from their father "Hawthorne", originally part of the "Glen Burnie" plantation, Alexander Scott Tidball later selling his interest to his brother who lived at "Hawthorne" from 1813 until his death in 1856.

Mr. Tidball studied law and was admitted to the bar. He engaged in the practice of his profession and in various other business activities. About 1820 he married Millicent McGuire I born at "Grove Farm," Frederick County, Va. in 1798), daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Holmes McGuire and aunt of Dr. Hunter McGuire,
Medical Director of "Stonewall" Jackson's Corps in the Army of Northern Virginia.

Alexander Scott Tidball lived on Water Street in Winchester. His home was later owned by Dr. Boyd. The children of Alexander Scott and Millicent McGuire Tidball were: Jane Scott, Elizabeth Holmes, Lucy Page, Mary, Edward McGuire (the first born). Frank and Alfred. Alexander Scott Tidball died in Winchester and
is buried there. His brother Josiah Tidball then living in Fauquier Co., Va. married Lucy G. Page, daughter of Mann Page III of "Mannsfield" and Mary Tayloe, his wife. The ceremony was performed by the Rev. Mr. Hill and took place at "Prospect Hill" in Clarke Co. on Thursday, January 31, 1836.

Alexander married MCGUIRE, Milicent about 1820. Milicent (daughter of MCGUIRE, Edward and HOLMES, Elizabeth) was born in Grove Farm, Frederick County, VA, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Philadelphia, PA, USA
• Residence: Winchester, Frederick, VA, USA

Joseph married SCOTT, Jane. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Merchant
• Religion: Episcopalian

Notes:

From Frederica Holmes Trapnell 1968 biography of John Macky

The second Edward McGuire “was born in Winchester in July 1767. He was bred to the business of a merchant, entering first the store of Col. Dowdell in Winchester with whom he remained several years.   After attaining the age of 20, he began business for himself at Battletown, now Berryville, and was so successful as to be able to also to open stores at Winchester and in North Carolina.  Desiring to retire, he sold his three stores for 8000 Virginia currency, but fraudulent behavior on the part of the purchaser prevented him from receiving any of the purchase money for a long time and brought him to acute financial embarrassment.  In 1805, he commenced keeping the large hotel in Winchester (which had been built by his father and previously rented to various innkeepers), made a very comfortable fortune, paid all his debts and supported and liberally educated his children.

“He was a quiet man, apparently stern to those who did not know him well; but in reality sociable and hospitable, and generous and charitable to the needy.  His son said, in his own old age, that his father was the most strictly truthful man he had ever known.” (Stanard, p. 32-33.)

He died on November 23 at his home in “Woodville,” near Berryville.  Standard and the Frederick Parish Register, 1825-42, both say he died in 1827, but his will was dated the 12th of November, 1828, and was proved on December first of that year.  It provided for payment of his debts and then his estate was to be divided equally among all his children, except that over and above their equal share, his daughter Rebecca Macky was to have $500., his son Edward D. McGuire, a Negro boy named Bill; his son John Samuel McGuire, $500. Towards completion of his education.  His son Hugh H. McGuire and his son-in-law Alexander S. Tidball (a lawyer and the husband of his daughter Millicent) were the executors. (Fred. Co. WIll Bk. 15, p. 19.)


From Encyclopedia of Virginia Biography:

Edward (2) McGuire, son of Edward (1) McGuire, the immigrant, and Elizabeth (Wheeler) McGuire, was born in 1768, at or near Winchester, Frederick county, Virginia. He always lived in Winchester; was a merchant and had stores in Alexandria and Norfolk, Virginia; and in Wilmington, North Carolina. Also owned large farms in Frederick county and elsewhere in Virginia. In politics he was a Federalist, and was a member of the Episcopal church. He married Elizabeth Holmes, of Winchester, Virginia. They had issue, namely: Rebecca, Milicent, Hugh Holmes, Edward D., William David, of whom more hereafter; David Holmes, John.

Died:
Standard and the Frederick Parish Register, 1825-42, both say he died in 1827, but his will was dated the 12th of November, 1828, and was proved on December first of that year.

Edward married HOLMES, Elizabeth on 10 Mar 1796 in Frederick Co, VA. Elizabeth (daughter of HOLMES, Col Joseph and HUNTER, Rebecca) was born on 24 May 1777 in Frederick Co, VA; died on 28 Mar 1828. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Also Known As: Betsy

Other Events and Attributes:

• Religion: Catholic
• Arrival: Bef 1747, Frederick County, VA, USA

Notes:

From Encyclopedia of Virginia:

Edward McGuire, son of Constantine and Julia (McElligott) McGuire, was born about 1720, in county Kerry, Ireland. He was offered a commission in the Austrian army by his uncle, John Sigismund McGuire, and left home with the intention of entering that service, but was taken ill with the plague in Lisbon, where he met Bishop Carroll, of Maryland, who persuaded him to come to America. He was in Frederick county, Virginia, before 1747, the date of his first land grant, and was active in the Indian wars, and held a commission in the Fredericksburg line in 1775. He died near Winchester, Virginia, in 1806, and was buried under the old Catholic church in Winchester, which he built and gave to that denomination. He married Elizabeth Wheeler of Prince George county, Maryland, and left surviving issue.

Arrival:
He met Bishop Carroll, of Maryland, who persuaded him to come to America. He was in Frederick county, Virginia, before 1747, the date of his first land grant

Died:
His will was dated July 19, 1806, and was proved on the first of December of that year.

Buried:
In 1806, he died in Winchester and was buried under the chancel of the old Catholic church.

Edward married WHEELER, Susannah. Susannah was born on 2 Jan 1734/35 in Prince George Co., MD; died before 1774. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Deputy-Commissioner General of Prisoners
• Census: 1782, Frederick Co, VA

Notes:

From Frederica Trapnell notes on John Macky from 1968:

There is little authenticated information about Joseph Holmes prior to his coming to Winchester, Virginia.  He is reputed to have been born at Ballykelly, Northern Ireland, on August 22, 1746. (Ballykelly is East of Londonderry on the road to Limavaddy and close to Lough Foyle.) His father, Hugh Holmes, is said to have owned an estate of 400 acres there. Many of the books about Winchester in its early days mention Joseph Holmes.  Cartmell, Shenandoah Valley Pioneers and Their Descendants, list the Vestrymen of Frederick Paris in 1764, among them being Edward Snickers and Joseph Holmes (p. 181) and refers to the latter as “the Deputy-Commissioner General of Prisoners,” (p. 271). “The November Court 1784, Joseph Holmes produced his commission as Lieutenant Colonel and at the May Court 1785 was sworn as Sheriff,” (p. 90). “Upon the petition of Joseph Holmes, Gent. and others, merchants in the Borough of Winchester, that they may have a portion of public ground assigned them for the purpose of building a Tobacca Warehouse, ordered that…Robert Mackey…be appointed to lay off on the public lot adjoining Water Street, 100 feet square for the purpose aforesaid, and that said land is vested in Joseph Holmes…Trustees for the purpose aforesaid…” (p. 140). Water Street is now called Boscawen Street.  It got its original name because the Town Run frequently overflowed it and made it impassable (The Streets of Winchester, Garland R. Quarles, p. 18).

Birth:
He is reputed to have been born at Ballykelly, Northern Ireland, on August 22, 1746. (Ballykelly is East of Londonderry on the road to Limavaddy and close to Lough Foyle.)

Joseph married HUNTER, Rebecca in 1767 in Frederick Co, VA. Rebecca (daughter of HUNTER, David and MCILHENNY, Martha) was born on 8 Nov 1749 in York, PA; died about Oct 1806 in Frederick County, VA, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Frederica Trapnell research notes:

Rebecca… was born in York County, Pennsylvania, on November 8, 1748. She married Joseph Holmes in 1767. In her will dated September 10, 1806, and proved October 6, 1806, she left a feather bed and bedding to each of her daughters, Elizabeth McGuire and Rebecca Contrad.  To another daughter, Gertrude Holmes, she left the remainder of her beds and bedding and one “filley known by the name of Venus.” To each of her sons, Joseph Holmes and Andrew Hunter Holmes, she left a two-year old colt.  All the rest of her property was to be sold and the receipts divided equally between her daughters, Elizabeth McGuire, Rebecca Contrad and Gertrude Holmes, and her sons, Joseph and Andrew Hunter Holmes. Her executors were Archibald Magill and Thomas Faucett.  Martin Cartmell and David Holmes gave bond in the amount of $10,000. Her daughter Margaret Holmes Legrand had died, and no mention was made of her son Judge Hugh Holmes nor of her daughter Nancy Holmes Boyd. (Fred. Co. WIll Bk. 8, p. 254-244, 1806).